Q: A dad and his son were riding their bikes and crashed. Could not think of his mother, but the real father to the boy. Is this possible or impossible? Oh, wait, now I remember: female-surgeon is the female form of surgeon. All the language is male dominated I wonder if it was a daughter instead of a son if that would change anyones answers? I even ran it past a young woman who was a junior doctor and training to be a trauma surgeon herself! I immediately thought the surgeon was the Mom or possibly the gay dad. Bias is essential to our survival and unfortunately our DNA and our bias is formed without asking our opinion. This riddle, if it is intended to display sexist bias, is severely flawed. Going by the reality of this age, the doctor is either the biological Mother or the gay father, or the adopted mother. Lets see the issue in Portuguese. For me this is more important and basic than whether it is based in gender bias or these other considerations, which most people have poor awareness of and responses to the riddle illustrate. As such, this may confound interpretation in terms of gender bias but the riddle nonetheless powerfully illustrates the unconscious operation of either cognitive set, gender stereotypes or other perceptual biases. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. And yeah the bible belt remark is embarrassing. It is still difficult in our society to put forward the women in their work and their success, as great and important as the men. Because my wife had a high-level corporate position, my thought went immediately to boys mother but the riddle gives you pause for thought in all of our underlying biases. This certainly opened my eyes and brings awareness to the fact that stereotypes might not be easily recognized. Like a judge, I thought HE OR SHE recused him/herself on this basis. Two ambulances came and took them to different hospitals. The man died on the way to the hospital, but the boy was rushed into surgery. Riddle starts like,A father and son. Case Analysis (Riddles) 1. Those findings support Belles. Sure, now I know how deep it is, but I am not going to go over the falls. I have seen this before and therefore knew the surgeon was the boys mother! The man's son was in the operating room and the doctor said, "I can't operate on you. How is this possible? He's my son." Yet the doctor was not the boy's father. I would not say stupid. (So having a surgeon mother doesnt necessarily mean youll propose that as the riddles solution.) This article is talking about gender bias and stereotypes, yours is just critical thinking. I have a hard time with the way this was presented. Some of these can be very creative. I did go to the assumption was 2 fathers. The researchers addressed this; its covered in the fourth paragraph: (The results were no different for an alternate version of the riddle: a mother is killed, her daughter sent to the hospital, and a nurse declines to attend to the patient because that girl is my daughter; few people guessed that the nurse might be the childs father.). So I missed perception. I thought along the same lines. The neurosurgeon took one look at the patient and said "I can't operate on the boy. Have you seen it? And back to my original point, the scenario of the riddle is gender-ambiguous. * Female surgeon: cirurgi Explain. While driving they get in an accident that kills the father immediately and sends the son to the hospital. My first though was that it was a gay couple who adopted. Looking at the portrait of a man, Harsh said "His mother is the wife of my father's son. If you'd like to take a guess at some more difficult riddles, have a go at the ones below and see how many you can solve! To study the power of lived experiences and conscious attitudes in helping individuals to overcome nonconscious gender schemas, U.S. university students (n = 152) were administered a classic riddle requiring the gender schema-inconsistent realization that a surgeon could be a woman. The validity of the conclusion reached here is questionable. Then you have both a horrible mother AND doctor, wholl obviously deny accountability in the end anyway. Show answer. Yet, for example, BU students theorized the father in the car referred to a priest, or the surgeon was horribly confused, or, la the old Dallas TV show, the whole scenario was a dream. Thus, an interesting piece on at least three kinds of bias: gender, geographic, and religious. The authors of Blindspot show us how to "outsmart the machinery of our own hidden biases.". Deborah Belle, a CAS psychology professor, helped with research showing the staying power of gender stereotypes. He needed immediate surgery. Just based on statistics. Gender bias continues even if we become more and more aware about it, because it needs a long time to change own behaviors. Youd think they would prefer to be the one doing it to ensure it got done right, Also theres no way they would be waiting an hour if it were the doctors child so that messes people up even further. False Assumption: The surgeon was a man. The man's son was in the operating room and the doctor said, "I can't operate on you. The first words are a father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad., It clearly states that theyre related a FATHER and a SON. An old riddle: Two siblings are born naturally on the same date, in the same year, to the same mother and father. A Man And His Son. A father and his son are involved in a horrific car crash and the man died at the scene. I will point out one thing that I have found out through my recent reading is that the authors of the books I am currently reading have the male character in the story wanting to know why a female character would want to venture in a male dominate field when they should be a homemaker. I cant imagine the students ran the experimental design by a grad student TA, because we would definitely have pointed this out, like a knee-jerk reaction. - Ryan Howard I have to admit that I did not reach the conclusion that the researchers were looking for. In an unambiguous gender scenario, people pick the right gender 100% of the time. True the woman is connected with reproduction, but that is logical not biased. "Because he's my son," the doctor responds. Just as he's about to go under the knife, the surgeon says, "I can't operate-that boy is my son!". The problem exists, and it is real. Sopeople are wired to look at the world through stereotypes and assumptions? The father dies immediately, but the son gets taken to the hospital for surgery. Each got one duck. Since I was brought up by a single father, I totally forgot about the mother. But, then, that doesnt fit your narrative, does it? 'A father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. Curiously, life experiences that might suggest the mom answer had no association with how one performed on the riddle, Wapman says. I'll post the answers after you have guessed. RIDDLE TIME: A father and his son were in a car accident. 1. The answer to your question really depends on how your son's field trip is organized. On March 12, 2003, 15-year-old Elizabeth Smart was found safe nine months after being abducted from her family's home in Salt Lake City, Utah. The father and son are both badly injured and are rushed to the hospital. my first though was, The father is gay and one of the parents die in the crash and the other parent was the surgent! It doesnt seem very enlightened to me to suggest that where youre from dictates the level of compassion or intelligence you can have. Actually, this issue is rather simple: in English, words dont have enough weight on gender, but the human mind relies heavily on words to make any and all sense out of everything. The doctor walks into the operating room, looks at the little boy, and says, "I can't operate on this boy. I remember the character Gloria talked about it on an episode of All in the Familyway back in the day. Looking at the portrait of a man, Harsh said, "His mother is the wife of my father's son. If you are aware of the father being gay then you are enlightened. The setup: A father and his son are in a car accident. My initial thought was: what is going through the surgeons mind? You just took a cheap shot at men. So, to call people out as prejudice is kind of unfair. Youre my son.. 2. I totally agree. The setup: A. father and his son are in a car accident. Thus my own bias against the enlightened elite gets reinforced. This article inflames the fight and does not help gender bias at all. What type of chair is electric, you can't get out of it on your own, but if someone helps you get out you're not dead? A doctor wants to operate for three different persons who were wounded. That is bias and an assumption. DON'T USE THE INTERNET PLS. The new Xbox is in "standby" mode and can be . I'm quick when I'm thin and slow when I'm fat. If it was neutral by using words like parent and child or they then people would be more inclined to choose mother or father but instead the riddle conditions people to subconsciously think of males that you are doomed to be biased from the begining. Almost everyone or at least those who have seen Tin Cup knows the answer to this riddle: A man and his son are in a car accident. New television shows are showing us the way things will be. The father died. See: >A mother is killed, her daughter sent to the hospital, and a nurse declines to attend to the patient because that girl is my daughter; few people guessed that the nurse might be the childs father. We live in a very gender biased culture. The only states where same-sex marriage is illegal as of 2014 are Georgia and North Dakota, at that they might be struck down by the U.S. Supreme Courts ruling. - question and answer in the Random club 14 September 2010. by Dennis Ayers. I made the assumption that the surgeon was male. This is very thought provoking. The riddle made no stipulation that they were related. No, the reversed version is actually not reversed, it contains another gender bias (that a nurse is female). https://discord.gg/EBchq82. 353 ratings. Mary is dead. Sometime down the road of the English language evolution (or even sooner than that), the decision was made for no words to have gender and for objects to be referred to as it and not he or she. You cant control your birthplace, but you can certainly control how you think. And yeah, schemas do exist, they sometimes change, and they interfere in our thoughts and actions lets all study psychology ;), Excludent isnt a real word (except in mathematics), The same issue arises in the Spanish version, which is that a son and his father get into a car accident and are taken to the nearest clinic. I find this fascinating and truly believe the only way to chip at our biases is to expose them. HOWEVER, that was in the mid-nineties, long after the idea of a woman being a surgeon had become ingrained in society. This article is very interesting.It helped me learn and understand gender schemas. Answer: A candle. Its why camouflage works. Read the logic puzzles that we propose and argue the answers. The father dies on the scene, but the child is rushed to the hospital. the old surgeon looked at the young man and declared, "i can't operate on this boy: he is my son". The father dies. Why this is a hard riddle for adults: Each hint compounds with the next to give the solver a better chance, but this difficult riddle is still as tricky as a trick candle. I knew that surgeon cannot operate on their own family member which is unethical for the surgeon to do. Comments / Answers (0) 2k views. A father and his son are in a car accident. he takes it from you when you corrupt it unknowingly but men cry for his gift no matter its cost, This is an eye opener article. It is possible for the boy's father to be killed, and yet the boy can still be the doctor's son. school have been at 50% for ten years or more. They are both taken to separate hospitals. The problem exists, and it is real. brain is tuned automatically that the surgeon is male , we have to come out of the box think with a open mind . Answer: The doctor is the boy's mother. It is hypocritical because it approves of the clear bias by the author. If you haven't heard it, give yourself time to answer before reading past this paragraph: a father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. In an *ambiguous* gender scenario (the officer pulled me over), you might have some likely hypotheses that their choice might match the population distribution (roughly 50/50), or that their choice might match the gender distribution of the profession (though people might not know this). If you consider that the need of a group of words like female-surgeon is excludent and therefore sexist by itself,you would understand the whole picture better. Exactly. This is my comment on this. Apparently, most of people can't solve this riddle because they're unable to imagine the surgeon is a woman. Having said my peace in resistance of toxic Political Correctness, Im happy to stand with women in honor of yesterdays International Womens Day. We have kept a lot of the traditions that we had before we were brought to the United States. I once gave this riddle to my wife and she did not get the answer. What are we? Furthermore, there is a cop-out solution that betrays your insistence on pointing out gender bias to the detriment of adoption. Implies that those inside the Bible Belt are not enlightened and dont get a point. how can this be? What We Can Learn from It Today, Bidens Legal Strategy Could Result in Supreme Court Scuttling His Student Loan Cancellation Program, Study Abroad Planning: A BU Student Offers Tips, Tricks, and Insights. www.bu.edu. Here is the riddle: "Each of you has a hat on your head. I think that as a species we are collectively ignorant and consistently ignorant when it comes to this as we are learning and shaping our language to accommodate all of us. However, the truth is The word doctor in my psyche is associated with man. We know that the elder couple has also a son. Mostly because of the wording of the riddle. A son and father are driving in a car. My problem is more trying to think inside the box, (or locate the drafted box, or figure out why everyone else is thinking inside the box in the first place). Ask them to spell 'silk'. If it was neutral by using words like parent and child or they then people would be more inclined to choose mother or father. Therefore, the riddle itself is actually malformed in English. If you havent heard it, give yourself time to answer before reading past this paragraph: a father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. A cowboy rides into town on Friday. Few of them gave mom as their first answer. The answer in this case is obviously that the surgeon is the father, but Im just wondering if the drastic lack of correct answers that people have given to the question is solely because of the gender roles they have in mind, or if the way the question is set up also primes people to think of the surgeon as having the same sex as the other individuals in the question. However, there is a stronger association neurologically with word-pair connections as father-son and mother-daughter activates and excites two different connection pathways, so the time it may take for someone to reach for a word from the opposite gender may be a while, or not at all. In an article about bias the author clearly shows his bias. I totally agree. Maybe even quadruplets? It really forces us to think again and again before taking any decision based on our perception about gender which we have build unconsciously over the period. the second son of my father has seen men rise and fall and have all of their secrets in his belly, The best part of various responses were fruit for thought. You're my son.". I think that it is a great thing to expand ones knowledge. This is an article that I am supposed to read to make me less biased if I happen to be biased. (They did the latter study through the Undergraduate Research Opportunities Program(UROP). The surgeon walks into the operating room and says "No. Test your smarts with the 101 best riddles, including easy and funny riddles for kids, and hard riddles for adults. It was very interesting. The mans son was in the operating room and the doctor said, I cant operate on you. Here's an old riddle. Yes, a control group would be a good idea; however, the study is easily replicated. I have no brothers or sisters"? This is an example of the unconscious bias that can exist in the minds of people when it comes to women in medicine. Riddle: A man and his son are driving in a car one day, when they are hit by a drunk driver. The Automobile Accident Riddle. But after I figure it out why the answer is his mom, my other bugging questions is why a mom as a surgeon could not to a surgeon for his own son? The doctor may be the boys uncle from the paternal or maternal side. How could this be? To my opinion it could be a case of adoption. Gender is the variable youre testing in the first place. Answer (1 of 73): Thanks for A2A At first instance, this question hits our subconsciousness where we link specific roles to specific genders. The dad dies but the son lives. For example, the BU student cohort, where women outnumbered men two-to-one, typically had mothers who were employed or were doctorsand yet they had so much difficulty with this riddle, says Belle. This actually revealed that we all have this bias mind set when it comes some professions. What made imagining a surgeon mom so difficult? I live in the Bible belt, answered the question correctly, and (surprise!) I realize Im 8 years late on answering but its the thought that counts. Imagine that. You're my son.". In the operating room, a doctor came in and looked at the little boy and said I can't operate on him he is my son. Riddle: A father and son were in a car accident where the father was killed. Firstly, it is good to make it a long drawn out tale with lots of extraneous detail to confound the recipient. :D. It didnt cross my mind that it could be the childs mother. She went through the gamut of daft hypothesese and then when told the answer protested that BUT, as a matter of fact there are no woman trauma surgeons in the UK. @ the people who guessed it was a gay couple rather than it was the mother! I still assumed male. I tried to convince myself that the words father and he were occupying my brain space. Hopefully when things change for the future. Profile. I easily figured out 4.1K Followers. The boy could have been adopted by the father in the accident, and surgeon could be the biological father in an open adoption. Upon seeing the young boy, the surgeon said, "I can't operate - this is my son.". I was thinking same about Slavic languages and probably more languages has words for men and woman. You measure my life in hours and I serve you by expiring. The parenthetical remark about the results reversing when the genders are changed proves, without doubt, that it is the wording of the riddle and not gender bias that influences the results. The son was taken to the hospital. In the operating room, the surgeon looks at the boy and says, "I can't operate . The daughter is rushed to the hospital; just as shes about to go under the knife, the surgeon says, I cant operatethat girl is my daughter!. Experimentation around schemas could definitely improve to rule other causalities and better understand these mechanisms. As many commenters have pointed out, this study is so poorly designed that it could be used as a model of how not to do social science. The riddle seems to indicate the effects of linguistic priming or misdirection, if it indicates anything at all. Answer: It was Count Dracula and his watch said it was 3 a.m. but it was actually 3 p.m. in the afternoon. (Again) We are all equally different, but with a common factor as a goal: RESPECT; Not to demand it from others and bend this world to our individual shape, but to grow as individuals in a well seasoned harmonized society. I have heard such theories as The father was resuscitated, It wasnt his real father, Its a clone of the father and even The surgeon is God. So I put in a good many superfluous male characters and even incidental masculine elements such as the type of car involved in the initial accident (a Humvee for example, rolling off a cliff on an outward bound expedition are nice macho touches). Who was the doctor? But the doctor was really not the boy's father. How is that possible? the man was killed, but the son lived and was rushed to a hospital. I wonder if they do the following control. Posted October 31, 2006. Confunde decir cirujano y no cirujana. Answer: Carrot. I was thinking the crash emotionally killed the father Like a true psychology major. And from his pet cemetery film Gates of Heaven (1978) to his portrait of right-wing provocateur Steve Bannon, American Dharma (2018), he has been adored and controversial, and has challenged the . These things come out of otherwise very intelligent people. The son was still alive but his condition was very serious, and he needed immediate surgery. What they really mean is that everyone should be tolerant of my views and of those that believe like me. He stays three days, then rides out of town on . Descriptions: A father and his son were in a car accident. Being aware that schemas and biases exist is the first step to untangling them. The surgeon sees the boy and says, "I can't operate, that boy is my son!" Researchers Deborah Belle and Mikaela Wapman, and many others, have studied responses to this riddle [3]. . A man and his son are in a car crash. Who will save us from ourselves? It made me realized I am Bias! Yet, something at the back of my mind says a lack of creativity, not gender bias is the main issue here. The Riddle: There are two doors. It is true, the first thing that comes to mind is the surgeon is a male. The ones who did seem to assume a woman doctor would still pull off the rest of her work day. I thought that the surgeon was his mother only because of the first scenario about the father and son. Maybe what that really reveals is that this riddle isnt really an accurate test of gender bias and is in fact a very childish and simplistic way of approaching a serious issue. BUs Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Policy. The following question was also set up, but with the occupation being nurse not surgeon. That's because the doctor is the boy's MOTHER. * Male nurse: enfermeiro Let this ignorance be a lubricant to slide in new ideas to shape the landscape viewed with our differed perspectives. While obviously bias clearly influences peoples responses I wonder how much the language primes people? That was my thought too, about the male pronouns. A: There weren't any stairs, it was a one story house! Quite a sad excuse for a doctor. music.). The dead so-called father had been cheated by the mother to this boy who had lied to him that this boy is his. Two ambulances came and took them to different hospitals. In research conducted by Mikaela Wapman (CAS14) and Deborah Belle, a College of Arts & Sciences psychology professor, even young people and self-described feminists tended to overlook the possibility that the surgeon in the riddle was a she. I was just wondering if at any point in the study anyone decided to reverse that narrative by doing the doctor one but by replacing only the word nurse in the scenario, and the same for the nurse example. Alternatives to the male/female family model are making in-roads. I have gay friends and have been to there wedding. He Is My Son Riddle. The doctor is the boy . If you haven't heard it, give yourself time to answer before reading past this paragraph: a father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. It might be the case that using words of only one gender (father, son, he, boy) is priming the participants to think in those terms. Fortunately, my daughter answered it correctly so maybe Im doing something right. Many of you will probably have heard the following riddle: A father and his son are involved in a horrific car crash and the man died at the scene. You have two ropes that both take exactly 1 hour t. If I am a liberal I would be angry because you just weakened our side by being hypocritical. Is it also possible that a gender bias researcher may be biased toward seeing gender bias? Try this riddle out but change the gender of the child.